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30 days of night
« on: January 08, 2008, 10:40 AM »
The preview for 30 Days of Night promised a new-take on the vampire. What I saw was simply all the character and personality that make vampires interesting, taken away; leaving a screeching and hissing animal that doesn't seem to drink blood so-much-as play in it. I really don't think this is an advancement on Vampires in the way people say 28 Days Later was an advancement on zombies. (Though running and even smart zombies were first featured in Return of the Living Dead, I believe.) They essentially dumbed the Vampire down, and believe me, these vampires were dumb.

The vampires seem very incompetent. Sure, we're talking about more savage like vampires, but they can talk to in three languages (*Something I didn't recognize, English, and Screech: which involves making high-pitched noises and jolting of the head), they knew how to dress themselves, and they understood the concept of doors, cell phones, sled-dogs, and electricity, yet, when it came to hunting humans, they never thought to just look under a car or building. And, they're supposed to be super-strong, high-jumping, deadly fingernail-wielding mofo's, but someone with an ax can tear them apart, literally! Then, when the town is down from it's 153 population to about..uh 8 or something, the vampires only attack one at a time. So every time a vampire finds their hideout, it's just one..odd, don't you think?

The tension and consistency of danger are fumbled and lost. At the beginning of the movie, the vampires could be any where and every where. But by the end, people could walk on the street, kill a vampire in the most noisy way possible and not attract attention, or even look at a vampire face-to-face (within 20 feet) and then just run away to safety. And, as I mentioned before, they had a very lame habit of attacking one at a time.

But despite the silliness of the film, the only truly unbearable quality was the lack of plot and total boredom this movie provides. The movie claims to be 30 days of night, and it really is just 30 days of night..with a bunch of vampires eating people. There were about three or four attempts at depth and plot, but nothing is really developed or even that interesting. In reality, I would have enjoyed the film more if it were just a silent film, because there really wasn't a single line of dialogue that was truly worth saying. The sudden time advancement also pulled away from the whole "Oh no, we're in-danger" feeling because at one moment everyone would be afraid their sanctuary would be discovered, then it's suddenly 7 days later or 20 days later without incident.

The two things that I legitimately enjoyed about the film featured an overhead camera angle that showed the massacre in full-effect and a rather desperate scene involving a vampire of the smaller persuasion. But two spurts of entertainment couldn't make me sit through this snorror film again. I emphasize that silent horror films really had something, because only two things truly matter in a simple film like this: gore and people looking scared. But as scared as the characters are, it's going to take more than loud noises and stupid prosthetic teeth to make me afraid to be alone at night.



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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 02:22 PM »
i disagree on this one,

This movie was not only had perfect dramatic angles, crops, transitions, filters, lighting, combination of fixed and mobile cameras and sky shots, but it pushed the idea of a vampire to a more animal instint and less sofisticated creature with a thirst only to eat. It was not only by my oppionon a big deal, but also at Comic Con San Diego, with over 140,000 people one of the biggest hypes along with heroes, iron man and the new indi.

The novel for those who are familiar with steve niles, was represented very well as he was directly involved. This movie was not about entertaining the average guy who wants a boom bam boom movie. It was a visual beauty. With every shot planned and re-planned pushing the envelope. In reality many people who just want to see tom cruise shoot a few people wouldnt like it. But for tens of thousands of people at the con it was a long awaited success.

now as for the depth of plot its not only a very involved novel, but it also won the screem award for best horror movie of the year, and along with that it also go the award for Best comic book of the year. also it has been a best seller for year.

I enjoyed your break down of the movie, but i disagree with every part of it, and i guess for the amount of stuff this novel/movie has accomplished it speaks for itself. i guess it just might be my background on this, and the fact that i am directly involved and speak with the people in this business and have learned to appreciate it. From the story boarding, to the camera angles and filters/lighting...

thats what i look for in a movie. I personally hate Steve Niles. he screwed a good friend of mine, and i was unlucky enough to meet him in San Diego at a Lucas Films Event. So i in no way wanted to like this movie.
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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 03:59 PM »
i disagree on this one,

Ok, then lets break down your points:
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This movie was not only had perfect dramatic angles, crops, transitions, filters, lighting, combination of fixed and mobile cameras and sky shots, but it pushed the idea of a vampire to a more animal instint and less sofisticated creature with a thirst only to eat.

Dramatic angles? I wouldn't be able to count more than 1 or 2 instances when I was impressed by an angle. 'The Mist' which primariy took place in 1 grocery store had better angle usage.

As for the idea of a less sophisticated creature, didn't realize that more 'animal instinct' which are only thirsty for bloody could have the ability to plan to burn cell phones prior to feasting. It is quite obvious that by their usage of different languages and their ability to learn to kill the power at the cops house prior to being burned again by the heat lamps that the producer did not intend for them to be primal.
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It was not only by my oppionon a big deal, but also at Comic Con San Diego, with over 140,000 people one of the biggest hypes along with heroes, iron man and the new indi.

I don't usually base my ideas or opinion on something based on someone else's general conscensous prior to a movie even coming out. The Comic Con was months prior to this being released, so how you or anyone there could have formulated an educated opinion on the movie is beyond me.

Hype does not make the movie, ask the producers of 'Punisher', 'Hit Man', and any other movie that did not meet expectations.
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The novel for those who are familiar with steve niles, was represented very well as he was directly involved. This movie was not about entertaining the average guy who wants a boom bam boom movie.

Never has a movie fully done a book justice, but I can tell from the movie that the books (especially if the writter was directly involved) is not a New York Times best seller.

You are incorrect when you say the movie was not about entertaining the average guy....movies are made PRECISELY for that, to entertain the average movie attendee.
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It was a visual beauty. With every shot planned and re-planned pushing the envelope. In reality many people who just want to see tom cruise shoot a few people wouldnt like it. But for tens of thousands of people at the con it was a long awaited success.

Again, how on earth would they have possibly have known? While I am excited that you went to this convention, you need to realize that most attendee's are fanatics and often are not as realistic. The movie had not even been released and yet "tens of thousands of people" thought it a success? I bet they also thought 'Alexander' would be epic.
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now as for the depth of plot its not only a very involved novel, but it also won the screem award for best horror movie of the year, and along with that it also go the award for Best comic book of the year. also it has been a best seller for year.

Screem awards? Never even heard of that. It is absurd to shape your opinion based on some obscur award. Didn't 'Broke back Mountain' win awards? As for best comic of the year, I assure you it won no such thing and I was unable to find it in New York Times Best sellers. Walmart's Staff choice of the month hardly gives the movie, comic and/or book any legitimacy.
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I enjoyed your break down of the movie, but i disagree with every part of it, and i guess for the amount of stuff this novel/movie has accomplished it speaks for itself.

That is because I gave my educated opinion after watching the movie rather than having my opinion shaped by people who had not even seen the movie months prior to the release of the movie solely based on hype and expectations while keeping up with the seemingly politically correct opinon at the comic con.
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i guess it just might be my background on this, and the fact that i am directly involved and speak with the people in this business and have learned to appreciate it. From the story boarding, to the camera angles and filters/lighting...

I doubt it. Camera angles were fair at best and it seems to be the one link to cling to in order to formulate the opinion that this movie is beyond watchable.
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thats what i look for in a movie. I personally hate Steve Niles. he screwed a good friend of mine, and i was unlucky enough to meet him in San Diego at a Lucas Films Event. So i in no way wanted to like this movie.

Fair enough I suppose, there has to be tastes of all kinds. I simple prefer real acting, true plots, consistency in genre and an overall attempt to keep a flow to a movie.

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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 09:42 AM »
havent seen it but pparently poop, not gonna watch it unless its on tv or a friend offers it to me so i can watch

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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 08:09 AM »
It's just a movie...

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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2008, 08:01 AM »
Its so sad that you would hate something that much, that you would go to the point of breaking down posts. Wow, i didnt even bother reading it....

but whatever,

you know everything and i know that what you want to hear, is that you are right and that because
you say so, it sucked.... other oppinions dont matter....


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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2008, 10:23 PM »
1. You read it
2. What a dumb remark to make, real mature
3. Awww poor baby, mad I made valid points and trashed ur movie???

What a suck. If you can't take it critizism of a movie, then don't come back on posts and say you disagree to points if your worried others will disagree with yours.

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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2008, 05:49 AM »
lol thought it was actually a pretty good film go ahead and mock me I DARE YOU

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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2008, 08:15 AM »
MOCKS!!!!

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Re: 30 days of night
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 09:45 AM »
:O!

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